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[personal profile] shadowfireflame
I've seen it now!!!

No spoilers version: saw it, loved it, can't wait for season 4!!!!!!!!!!

Spoilers version:



Loved every bit and thought it was brilliant. :)

I figured out something was up when Mycroft was talking about "the virus in the data," that's when I thought, "Oh, this is Sherlock's mind palace for sure!"

Now I really want to know who's behind the "Did you miss me?" thing--is it Janine [Moriarty]? Does Moriarty have a twin? Is it a collective? And clearly Mary is in on something. And Redbeard looks more and more like "the other one." And the future doesn't look bright for Mycroft.

Those are my quick thoughts.

EDIT: MOLLY. FUCKING. HOOPER.

Date: 2016-01-02 04:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yalumesse
Too soon for me to have any coherent theories (beyond SQUEEEEEEEEEEE :D:D:D:D!), but what do you mean "the other one"? I agree, Redbeard is definitely more than seemed, but not sure I know what you mean here.

Given the acknowledgement they're giving women here I hope you're right about Janine. Twin would be too cliche.

Date: 2016-01-02 04:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
Ah, basically the other Holmes sibling--Mycroft refers to someone like this as "the other one" in His Last Vow. I'm just saying I think it's possible Redbeard isn't actually a dog but that s/he was someone important to Sherlock and who died in a traumatizing way. Wellthengameover has written a lenghty meta on it at this link that I really like.

Janine could be Moriarty's twin, of course! Just the fact that Sherlock repeatedly says, "It's never twins" makes me think it probably is. :) But it could also be Mary herself.

Too soon for me to have any coherent theories (beyond SQUEEEEEEEEEEE :D:D:D:D!)

YESSS, I am so happy and squeeing. So much Johnlock to love.

Date: 2016-01-02 08:50 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yalumesse
Oh yes, right! Got it. Cheers for the link, I hadn't heard that theory; I'll have a read :)

Janine and Moriarty's equally brilliant twin would be excellent. I'd rather it be her than Mary because a) more women on screen is never a bad thing and b) I don't want Mary's loyalties called into question again. Even if she's the good brilliant twin, it'll happen, and that's just sad.

I'm sure we'll have more coherent theories soon! :D

Date: 2016-01-02 09:20 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] yalumesse
Read the meta link. Have to say, I'm not convinced; this person writes with conviction but the actual points are hinging on assumptions, which are then used as the factual basis for more assuptions. Redbeard and "the other one" appearing in close succession might mean they're connected, on the other hand, there's only so much room in a season to set up the next seson, which is always going to have multiple interconneting storylines. Redbeard could symbolise a lot, including a brother, or be a real dog that was there at the same time as a brother, or lots more. Not to say they can't be right, but to me it seems more like the very solid groundwork for a fanfic than solid speculation for canon. *shrug*

Date: 2016-01-03 03:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
Yay, glad you read it! Only time will tell with these sorts of things, but it's really fun to speculate.

Redbeard could symbolise a lot, including a brother, or be a real dog that was there at the same time as a brother, or lots more.

Yup! At any rate, clearly there's something a bit more to Redbeard than just a cute dog from Sherlock's past. Though he really is very cute! :)

I admit I have a thing for 100%-bad-to-the-bone-evil!Mary as well as good!Mary or morally ambiguous!Mary, but she's such a fun character that I don't mind whichever way it turns out.

Date: 2016-01-02 10:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] daasgrrl.livejournal.com
That's an interesting theory! I admit, I find the whole 'the other one' too cryptic and difficult to deal with, so I've been avoiding it *g*

There's certainly a lot to deconstruct in the new ep, for those people who are into it!

Date: 2016-01-02 06:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] biswholocked.livejournal.com
EDIT: MOLLY. FUCKING. HOOPER.

I could not agree more with this. The moment Hooper came on with the mustache and hair I started grinning like a madman. And then later, when she confronted Holmes! A very brilliant way of working Brealey into the special, imo.

Date: 2016-01-03 03:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
Yesssss, "grinning like a madman" was me exactly--once I recognized her! I cackled. Can you believe, I honestly didn't recognize her for a few seconds and was like, "Who's that cute pathologist guy...ah...oops..."

I'm still thinking that Sherlock must have recognized her, surely? But maybe the point is that he wasn't paying enough attention to her to notice more than superficial things, just like in the modern day, until she reveals her true self to him. But I love her so much!

Date: 2016-01-03 08:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dioscureantwins.livejournal.com
But didn't they explicitly rule out the twin theory?

Anyway, join you in the general squee. Did have some misgivings but on the whole they pretty much erased the vile taste S3 left in my mouth.

And YAY for so much almost blatant Holmescest.

Date: 2016-01-03 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
The fact that they explicitly ruled out the twin theory...makes me think that it may be the actual answer...haha. Or triplets. (Mary Moriarty and Janine Moriarty?)

And YAY for so much almost blatant Holmescest.

I drooled, omg. Just when I think I can't be spoiled any further...even in the gross scene with the fatsuit, Sherlock and Mycroft are still pretty hardcore flirting. :)

Date: 2016-01-04 10:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antephialtic.livejournal.com
Damn it. I forgot to watch it and now I feel out of the loop once again. Oh well, at least I still have BBC iPlayer to help me. ( "^,^)

Date: 2016-01-04 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
I'd love to know what you thought once you've seen it! :)

Date: 2016-01-04 01:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antephialtic.livejournal.com
will definitely update you on the feels once i watch it

Date: 2016-01-04 02:54 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] unsentimentalf
It made me extraordinarily happy.

I can't help wondering if Sherlock was simply lying in the end. After all, he found out how the bride (and by extension Moriarty) could have faked a bullet through the brain. She had to kill herself afterwards to provide a corpse to be identified, but Moriarty's corpse just disappeared. So why is Sherlock's conclusion that M is dead? It makes no sense.

Also I am intrigued as to why Sherlock's world involves Watson interrogating him about his love life ;-) Everything else seems to have some sort of function, so why is that there?

Date: 2016-01-04 08:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shadowfireflame.livejournal.com
It made me extraordinarily happy.

I'm so glad! I see some people hating on it online and I have to wonder why because I just don't understand that reaction. But like you, it made me extraordinarily happy as well and I loved it.

The facts that they say "it's definitely not twins" and "Moriarty is definitely dead" make me think those are definitely still possibilities. :) So Sherlock could for sure have been lying (either consciously or unconsciously). And you're right, Moriarty's corpse isn't there...but at any rate, the scenes between Sherlock and Moriarty were heart-poundingly sexually intense, yum!

Also I am intrigued as to why Sherlock's world involves Watson interrogating him about his love life ;-)

If only John and he could talk about these things in real life!!

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